If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
both these races are for 2yo trotting fillies, nj sire stakes and in both legs all horses are by the same stallion trixton.. is he the only trotting stallion in the state? know nothing about this stuff
R4 #7 follow your heart (7-2) R5 #1 skyway kon man (5-1) R8 #4 quality bud (8-1) R9 #7 she's got game (10-1)
R10 #3 major deception (3-1)
R11 #1 the erm (15-1) lunacy morning line
R12 #4 ideal perception (10-1)
R14 #1 gerry (9-2)*
R14 #8 spectre (12-1)*
* 2 horses recommend 50% more split among both horses.. 3 win both instead of 4 win on one
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
added prarie meadows (they have a couple of stakes races)
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
R2 #10 golconda (8-1) R3 #5 fight on lucy (4-1) R4 #3 she'sasuperfreak (6-1) R5 #5 percentage (6-1)* R5 #8 now is (20-1)*
* 2 horses R5
if sloppy play half.. off the turf no play but the big stakes (7,9) scheduled for turf will not be run on dirt i'm sure
R6.. dwyer stakes grade 3
#2 rowayton (3-1)
R7.. belmont oaks grade 1
#1 olendon (9-2)
she just missed in a grade 1 @ same distance last start over in france.. stock over there considered better than the states.. rail has won 3/9 at this distance.. might be a little rain by later this afternoon and softer ground would only help her chances
R8.. john nerud grade 2
#9 do share (7-2)
think #5 could potentially keep ml favorite #9 promises fulfilled (2-1) honest on the front end and set it up nicely for a late run.. has the figures and 7f looks like the perfect distance
R9.. belmont derby invitational grade 1
#1 moon colony (12-1)
#4 english bee (30-1)
think both will be lower and because neither is trained by chad brown you'll probably get a bit of an overlay.. both their trainers are having exceptional meets and the aforementioned chad brown's horses occupy far outside posts right alongside each other
R10.. the suburban.. grade 1
#11 pavel (8-1)
don't think I've ever seen a horse travel as much as he has in at least his last 10 races.. o'neil must have a lot of faith in him to do this as the results have been mediocre at best.. think the line he ran in the met mile sets him up nicely to stretch out and still think he might have a race like the stephen foster which he won last year in him.. that would make him tough in what I consider a field with little depth outside of catholic boy
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
How's it been going guys?? Haven't been playing anything lately. Saving my bankroll for Saratoga !!! Any good hits lately Bleeker??
hey jim ...my memory is horrible other than yesterday I got blanked.. I think generally speaking (weeks) I've been doing OK but more regular prices rather than big bombs..haven't had many (or any) of those in quite a while I believe.. looking forward to moving on to saratoga.. going to put up my belmont plays here ...
belmont
R5 #5 lough na mona (5-1) 555
R7 #1 we should talk (8-1)
R9 #4 mimi and charley (12-1)*
R9 #8 liza jambalaya (8-1)*
* 2 horses
los alamitos
R7 #5 potantico (8-1)
did nothing debut and I'll excuse breaking from the 11 post in a turf route 2nd start...his first route attempt last out very solid try while finishing behind the two likely favorites (6,8) this race.. $200k yearling out of a $4500 stallion but some of that is explained by good production (foals) and a stakes winning mare.. still like the fact that this one cost that much as feel it gives him a better chance to improve off his last race
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
brutal finish to belmont..back for saratoga opener thursday and hopefully it stays dry
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
hey jim or, anyone for that matter, if you have a pick or opinion (explanation) on the opening day cards at saratoga or del mar feel on thursday free to post in here
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
looks like there's a decent chance the track may be off tomorrow (ruins it for me) .. any turf race (2 4 6 7 9 10) that is run on the dirt is a no play..i always handicap dirt races for good or fast tracks so sloppy or muddy conditions are half plays or no plays for me.. not going to bother with 7-10 till I see what the conditions are tomorrow
R1 #7 real dan (5-2)
have a feeling this is a well meant drop down with the connections involved.. owner is a big player in this game and buys very expensive horses..he'll run them where they are capable of doing well even if it means taking a loss.. don't think he'd be returning in 3 weeks if he were in really bad shape.. think with what he has under him he's nicely set up for the stretch out.. probably get taken by someone
R2 #8 duress (15-1)
first time starter who cost a lot for the pedigree.. above average turf and win early top and bottom.. working very nicely up to the race.. trainer bad with first time starters (1/32) but you need something to be off to get a price.. have to think maybe they've tightened him up a little more than usual being its opening day
R3 #7 the rock says (4-1)
trying to stay away from horses who ran big at belmont because of the completely different configuration of route races up here.. not going take the big figure chad brown (#6) as that's too obvious.. this one has many nice credentials coming in
R4 #3 discretionary (8-1)
R5 #1 time shift (15-1)
trainer bad with debut horses but like the kentucky bloodlines vs nyb company.. works solid but not spectacular which i prefer anyway
R6 #10 analyzethisandthat (9-2)
won here last year in his 3rd career start and doing the same thing here (distance, surface but 3rd off the layoff this time).. like the races he's got under him as a setup .. crappy trainer may give you a shot at a decent price
_______________________________________________ ( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
Comment