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Originally posted by Chamblin View Post
thanks chamblin.. through 5 at belmont.. if track gets sloppy go lighter_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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Originally posted by FRAOLI4444 View Postgood luck hope all is well
thanks fraoli ..been a while since you've checked in.. hope all is well with you also_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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finished churchill_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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added belmont 8 9_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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churchill
R2 #7 baytown bear (20-1)
think this a below avg group of specials.. could see last as a launching point for an improvement
R3 #1 bulletin (7-2)
has had many excuses since his early success as a turf sprinter.. wrong distance, surface, class and blinkers.. last a nice primer coming off the long layoff
R5 #5 pow wow prince (6-1)
a little disappointed that he's up for $20k but not real scary.. transpose the keeneland race from last October on this field he'd be tough.. sloppy track 2 back and a poor start last off the long layoff vs better.. ran a very even race back of the pack and I give some credit for that.. works leading up at palm meadows were very solid
R8 #5 earner (6-1)
lots of expensive horses but this one is relatively (as I often say).. even though it's his 3rd career start will try again in a very competitive field ..like the name also
R9 #6 twenty twice (10-1)
fts and I would call this one on the expensive side for the specs but not outrageously so..solid works leading up and jock below the radar decent turf rider
I've been checking dam records beyond the pp's on a lot of these
belmont
R1 #2 wink (6-1)
R4 #9 make a stand (8-1)
even effort behind slow pace in debut
maiden breaker dropping to highest level mdn clm next out..
similarly pace compromised last out and pace (figs) behind much slower than debut
trainer change (todd no use for $40k mdn clmer) to trombetta (solid)
sharp works coming in
R5 #6 helen by night (15-1)
R5 #9 lovely escort (20-1)
2 horses R5
R7
between 4 and 9 for me..both cost a bunch relative with the latter an extraordinary multiple. .60x the stallion fee with what i would consider minor production on the bottom..linda rice good msw but below avg firsters..like to see this one played a bit..higher than ml probably dead..the 4 besides what I said castellano riding for gleaves?,who has popped at least 1 monster vs specials in a debut..working like she means it ..may play them both
R9 #9 my boy tate (12-1)
hoping blewitt #5 can keep the pace a little honest with the fave #7 buff (6-5) but no question the latter is the quicker horse.. an off the charts race for the fav last out and sometimes a horse will react to that.. really impressed how mine has run off that very long layoff and don't think the mile will be an issue.. like that he has a lot of extended sprint running experience.. if there is a battle up front or fave is not himself like my chances
R10 #7 stare decisis (4-1)
bred top and bottom for 1 1/4 miles turf.. like a slow fade line and a stretch out off a faster than avg race.. gets the superior ortiz brother (other last time)
R10 #3 sandro the great (12-1) half unit
not a horrible effort in an off the turf maiden first out.. class, distance and turf all there for this homebred...solid work pattern.. clement also doesn't hurtLast edited by bleeker; 06-12-2020, 01:15 PM._______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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finished belmont_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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belmont
R1 #11 mitzrayim (10-1)
R2 #5 plutonian (10-1)
lokks like they were intending to run him at keeneland.. interesting they would go through all this trouble to ship a horse from europe.. as bad as his last 5 races look (from last year) you had a 26 horse field (finished 5th). 2 other races with much better company than today.. 2 poly track races.. could wake up at this level.. 2018 version much better than this field.. first time lasix and wesley has hit with two euro shippers and at least one (possibly both) was a huge price.. maybe feel he'll like firmer ground
R3 #2 back channel (3-1)
linda rice with another mega expensive firster (relative applies here). I always like to take a shot with these even though that doesn't necessarily mean first out's going to be a masterpiece.. chad brown just inside of her with a 2-5 ml .. still don't understand how mathematically you can have a 2-5 and 3-1 in the same race but maybe someday I will
just pick rest as I want to look at churchill
R4 #4 fluent in sarcasm (7-2)
R5 #4 sea foam (7-2)
R6 #4 celebration (9-2)
R7 #8 empire lady (15-1)
R8 #10 good credence (9-2)
R9 #4 blamed (10-1) don't agree ml
R10 #5 hurricane breeze (4-1)
churchill
R1 #3 chicks for free (7-5) odds on
R2 #3 urban cat (8-1)
R4 #9 my destiny (20-1)
homebred debuter win early,turf and extremely productive dam..working well for capable below the radar trainer
R5 #4 art collector (3-1)
R6 #8 pyron (5-2)
R7 #4 popular kid (5-1)
R9 #6 shanghai's dream (6-1)
R10 #8 recoded* (15-1)
R10 #11 shadilee* (15-1)
2 horses half each
R11#5 arklow (8-5)
think the even run in the pegasus world cup is a perfect launching point to stretch out and drop..in the breeders cup turf he ran evenly behind an absolutely tortoise-like pace..may not look it on paper but I'm going by figs ...the race before that in the turf classic was monstrous including the pace..not a big price but sitting on a big race imoLast edited by bleeker; 06-13-2020, 03:11 PM._______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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through 5 churchill_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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finished churchill_______________________________________________
( ) in football and baskets is avg ats or ou margin..baseball it's avg odds and run differential for sides and totals..winners and late scratches usually not recognized in the horse thread but on occasion will mention.. always double check race and horse # if you play .. I do lose a lot more races than I win.. playing in advance, late odds moves and high takeout very hard to overcome .. derby future opinion post 3713 on page 149 (horse plays)
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